Difference between Deaerator and a Condensate Tank - Boiling point

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well today on the boiling point we're
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00:00:10.660 00:00:10.670 which tradeshows season here at ware and
00:00:13.549 00:00:13.559 we're going to be at the power gin our
00:00:15.650 00:00:15.660 container comes out and I start looking
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00:00:25.009 00:00:25.019 got my man Steve Taylor here our
00:00:27.050 00:00:27.060 resident expert if you will Steven while
00:00:29.960 00:00:29.970 we talk a little bit about the deaerator
00:00:31.370 00:00:31.380 first and what is a generator for to
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00:00:46.910 00:00:46.920 okay actually it's a feed system if I'm
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00:01:04.759 00:01:04.769 water goes to the pumps to pump Jack
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00:01:08.899 00:01:08.909 as a boiler in each water just to keep
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00:01:49.969 00:01:49.979 down the mcdonald miller has a slide
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00:02:06.020 00:02:06.030 water level in the gauge class typically
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00:02:23.399 00:02:23.409 to get rid of that that oxygen that's in
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00:03:00.360 00:03:00.370 of time you walk by a boiler room or
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00:03:05.009 00:03:05.019 that's actually oxygen being vented off
00:03:07.409 00:03:07.419 of that feed system all the time it's
00:03:08.759 00:03:08.769 not wasted energy
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00:03:11.580 00:03:11.590 the aerator system okay and as we know
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00:03:38.580 00:03:38.590 this works
00:03:39.390 00:03:39.400 it's pretty much the same set up we're
00:03:41.580 00:03:41.590 introducing water here we have a
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00:04:03.080 00:04:03.090 through the make up water still have a
00:04:05.280 00:04:05.290 preheater steam pre here that comes in
00:04:08.009 00:04:08.019 but it's going in through a sparging
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00:04:17.699 00:04:17.709 that will preheat the water we typically
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00:04:26.860 00:04:26.870 rest of it we have to clean it by
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00:04:57.070 00:04:57.080 condensate system loose if most of the
00:04:59.680 00:04:59.690 time you'll see a condensate system on a
00:05:01.570 00:05:01.580 smaller system a lot of times is
00:05:03.400 00:05:03.410 strictly capital the deaerator system is
00:05:06.490 00:05:06.500 probably three times the cost of a
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00:05:09.700 00:05:09.710 dollars and cents and if you've got a
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00:05:14.409 00:05:14.419 return water is already treated very
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00:05:23.890 00:05:23.900 water you really want to look at a
00:05:25.360 00:05:25.370 derailer system versus the condensate is
00:05:27.189 00:05:27.199 really the big thing is of course it's
00:05:29.589 00:05:29.599 preheating the water because you
00:05:30.790 00:05:30.800 certainly don't want to introduce cold
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00:05:35.110 00:05:35.120 tubes loosen the tube sheet you'll have
00:05:37.029 00:05:37.039 all kinds of problems okay appreciate
00:05:38.620 00:05:38.630 you hanging out with us again and
00:05:40.649 00:05:40.659 there's a difference between the
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00:05:48.339 00:05:48.349 Stephan stopping by and talking to us a
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