How to Install a Combination Boiler_Water Heater _ Ask This Old House

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now your heating system is a forced
00:00:09.120 00:00:09.130 hot-water heating system in this case
00:00:10.560 00:00:10.570 you've got a convector in each room now
00:00:12.150 00:00:12.160 convector has heated water comes up
00:00:14.730 00:00:14.740 through a pipe right here passes through
00:00:16.800 00:00:16.810 this fin heat exchanger and heats up the
00:00:19.560 00:00:19.570 air these things are fine we don't have
00:00:21.419 00:00:21.429 to do a thing up here although our works
00:00:23.429 00:00:23.439 gonna be down in the basement okay now
00:00:27.570 00:00:27.580 your heating system has pretty much been
00:00:29.400 00:00:29.410 the standard package around these parts
00:00:31.349 00:00:31.359 for the last 60 years it's not exactly
00:00:33.150 00:00:33.160 new technology this is a gas-fired
00:00:36.139 00:00:36.149 cast-iron heating boiler there's a
00:00:38.610 00:00:38.620 burner underneath and that heats up a
00:00:40.229 00:00:40.239 big block a cast iron right here that's
00:00:42.090 00:00:42.100 filled with water all the flue gas goes
00:00:44.160 00:00:44.170 up through this pipe right here into the
00:00:45.779 00:00:45.789 chimney now the thermostat comes on
00:00:47.729 00:00:47.739 upstairs it brings on the burner but it
00:00:49.830 00:00:49.840 also brings this circulator pump on to
00:00:51.840 00:00:51.850 send the heated water up through those
00:00:53.400 00:00:53.410 convector ZUP stairs it works now one
00:00:56.610 00:00:56.620 thing I do notice is right here this
00:00:58.770 00:00:58.780 thing is rated for a hundred and fifty
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00:01:03.029 00:01:03.039 means it's really big this would be good
00:01:05.760 00:01:05.770 for a house that's about 3,000 square
00:01:07.530 00:01:07.540 feet I have under a thousand right we
00:01:09.720 00:01:09.730 could actually heat your neighbors next
00:01:10.980 00:01:10.990 to neighbors I don't think I know all
00:01:12.300 00:01:12.310 right but that's not unusual we see this
00:01:13.860 00:01:13.870 happen all the time people have tended
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00:01:16.920 00:01:16.930 inefficient now that's for heating of
00:01:19.020 00:01:19.030 the house you have a separate system
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00:01:22.350 00:01:22.360 faucets there's a gas-fired tank type
00:01:24.210 00:01:24.220 water heater burner right here heats up
00:01:26.790 00:01:26.800 a big tank of water right here 40
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00:01:31.260 00:01:31.270 every day whether or not you hear or not
00:01:33.180 00:01:33.190 to make hot water the fact is both of
00:01:35.550 00:01:35.560 these systems they work you have heat
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00:01:38.730 00:01:38.740 continue to go up we'd probably just
00:01:40.080 00:01:40.090 keep doing this way forever right well
00:01:42.030 00:01:42.040 we want to do today is to eliminate the
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00:01:48.360 00:01:48.370 Barry Colin hey Barry hi how are you
00:01:50.460 00:01:50.470 Barry and his crew helping us with the
00:01:51.750 00:01:51.760 installation today what do we got what
00:01:53.910 00:01:53.920 we have here is we have a gas-fired
00:01:56.250 00:01:56.260 combination boiler and it provides both
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00:02:01.800 00:02:01.810 we call it as a combi so this one small
00:02:04.410 00:02:04.420 units gonna replace both of those yeah
00:02:06.210 00:02:06.220 let me show you how it works it looks a
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00:02:10.800 00:02:10.810 a little bit before you had 10 gallons
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00:02:16.339 00:02:16.349 one gallon of water inside this
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00:02:19.970 00:02:19.980 circulator pump like you had before
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00:02:23.270 00:02:23.280 heated inside this block it goes out to
00:02:26.509 00:02:26.519 your convector x' clears up its heat to
00:02:28.369 00:02:28.379 upstairs comes back cooler and to be
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00:02:32.360 00:02:32.370 it's much more efficient where
00:02:34.250 00:02:34.260 difference is this it can make domestic
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00:02:40.369 00:02:40.379 actually a very ingenious flat plate
00:02:42.559 00:02:42.569 heat exchanger now this is a series of
00:02:44.869 00:02:44.879 plates that are stacked on top of one
00:02:46.729 00:02:46.739 another boiler water goes in this
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00:02:54.619 00:02:54.629 place now the boiler water never touches
00:02:57.020 00:02:57.030 that potable water okay but what happens
00:02:59.420 00:02:59.430 is the heat from the boil water is given
00:03:01.099 00:03:01.109 up to that cold water thereby making hot
00:03:03.800 00:03:03.810 water up at your faucets all right
00:03:05.659 00:03:05.669 what's nice about this is this burner
00:03:07.729 00:03:07.739 doesn't come on to make hot water for
00:03:09.740 00:03:09.750 the faucets unless you open up the
00:03:11.539 00:03:11.549 faucet which means you don't use
00:03:12.649 00:03:12.659 anything if you're not using the hot
00:03:13.879 00:03:13.889 water and there's no tank wow that's
00:03:15.740 00:03:15.750 amazing it's pretty cool now bearing is
00:03:17.809 00:03:17.819 crew have done a good job you've got a
00:03:18.920 00:03:18.930 lot of stuff done here you got plywood
00:03:20.479 00:03:20.489 the hangers and up I see gas piping
00:03:22.670 00:03:22.680 water piping we ready put this out sure
00:03:24.439 00:03:24.449 all right okay you got it
00:03:36.710 00:03:36.720 okay good now one of the things about
00:03:39.660 00:03:39.670 these units they're so efficient that
00:03:41.700 00:03:41.710 there's not much left in the flue gas
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00:03:46.620 00:03:46.630 go into the old-style chimney we have to
00:03:49.410 00:03:49.420 actually vent to outside so we're going
00:03:51.240 00:03:51.250 to need two holes to the outside one is
00:03:53.460 00:03:53.470 for the flue gas to go outside the other
00:03:55.710 00:03:55.720 is for combustion air the air to be
00:03:57.300 00:03:57.310 burned to come inside now we just make
00:04:19.590 00:04:19.600 up the PVC connections
00:04:31.200 00:04:31.210 can you turn it in twist it in that's
00:04:38.230 00:04:38.240 good well it turns out that this side of
00:04:43.300 00:04:43.310 the building is really a good location
00:04:44.529 00:04:44.539 for the side wall venting you can see
00:04:46.659 00:04:46.669 the intake right here here's the exhaust
00:04:48.939 00:04:48.949 each of them are going to have a screen
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00:04:51.850 00:04:51.860 okay now the codes have clear rules
00:04:53.499 00:04:53.509 about placement it wants to be above the
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00:04:59.800 00:04:59.810 the other is the exhaust cannot be
00:05:01.930 00:05:01.940 within 12 inches of a window so that's
00:05:03.700 00:05:03.710 fine and finally it needs to be no
00:05:07.029 00:05:07.039 closer than one foot between the intake
00:05:08.980 00:05:08.990 and the exhaust you don't want to bring
00:05:10.360 00:05:10.370 flu products back into degree burn ah
00:05:12.100 00:05:12.110 perfect location great all right Barry
00:05:16.210 00:05:16.220 the venting is completed now yeah all we
00:05:18.159 00:05:18.169 got to do now is the piping all right so
00:05:19.930 00:05:19.940 piping that means hot and cold piping
00:05:22.029 00:05:22.039 right here we also have the supply and
00:05:24.100 00:05:24.110 return piping to the heating system
00:05:25.870 00:05:25.880 right here and the gas connection to the
00:05:28.300 00:05:28.310 new combi boiler
00:05:32.930 00:05:32.940 you
00:05:58.070 00:05:58.080 now in this old boiler you had one speed
00:06:01.200 00:06:01.210 the thermostat would call and you would
00:06:02.610 00:06:02.620 get 150 thousand BTUs of firing power
00:06:04.860 00:06:04.870 with the new device it's got a
00:06:06.540 00:06:06.550 modulating gas valve and that means it
00:06:08.970 00:06:08.980 can modulate between seventeen thousand
00:06:10.920 00:06:10.930 BTUs up to 75 thousand so we can always
00:06:13.470 00:06:13.480 match the load that we need so how does
00:06:15.390 00:06:15.400 it do that
00:06:15.900 00:06:15.910 well it has an outdoor temperature
00:06:17.490 00:06:17.500 sensor like this this will mount on the
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00:06:22.440 00:06:22.450 temperature on the coldest day of the
00:06:23.910 00:06:23.920 year you'll fire it up to full fire just
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00:06:27.840 00:06:27.850 plenty of temperature to go through the
00:06:28.980 00:06:28.990 convective but on a spring in the fall
00:06:30.750 00:06:30.760 which is most of the heating season it
00:06:32.220 00:06:32.230 says no we don't need that much water
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00:06:35.700 00:06:35.710 and that's where you save energy wow
00:06:37.410 00:06:37.420 that's great
00:06:39.170 00:06:39.180 all right Emory your new coffee boilers
00:06:41.940 00:06:41.950 ready to go excited super excited now
00:06:44.400 00:06:44.410 we've got our vent connections done
00:06:45.810 00:06:45.820 here's the hot and cold that goes out to
00:06:47.910 00:06:47.920 your faucets upstairs okay now this is
00:06:50.130 00:06:50.140 the supply returned piping that connects
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00:06:53.460 00:06:53.470 circulator pump that will send that heat
00:06:54.870 00:06:54.880 around here's your gas piping that's all
00:06:57.090 00:06:57.100 done and electricals done as well okay
00:06:59.100 00:06:59.110 so now anytime we burn gas normally
00:07:02.160 00:07:02.170 there's a bunch of water vapor filled
00:07:03.900 00:07:03.910 with heat that goes up and out of the
00:07:05.130 00:07:05.140 chimney this is a condensing boiler and
00:07:07.470 00:07:07.480 what that does is it actually extracts
00:07:09.390 00:07:09.400 the heat out of the water droplets that
00:07:10.710 00:07:10.720 would have been lost up to the
00:07:11.730 00:07:11.740 atmosphere use it inside the boiler
00:07:14.070 00:07:14.080 makes it much more efficient but we got
00:07:15.990 00:07:16.000 to deal with the water that's left over
00:07:18.090 00:07:18.100 this is called condensate you can see
00:07:20.310 00:07:20.320 right here that it goes to a limestone
00:07:21.630 00:07:21.640 neutralizer because that condensate can
00:07:23.730 00:07:23.740 be a little bit acidic this is a
00:07:25.350 00:07:25.360 condensate pump to pump that water right
00:07:27.150 00:07:27.160 over to the sink but we're ready to go
00:07:29.190 00:07:29.200 great turn on this button right here all
00:07:32.760 00:07:32.770 right Barry once you open up that hot
00:07:33.960 00:07:33.970 water faucet I hear it I feel you got
00:07:40.770 00:07:40.780 hot water over there oh yeah you have
00:07:42.630 00:07:42.640 hot water awesome thank you and now it's
00:07:46.140 00:07:46.150 gonna be great you're gonna have plenty
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00:07:48.690 00:07:48.700 you'll never run out of hot water and
00:07:50.340 00:07:50.350 you're gonna save a ton of energy oh my
00:07:52.380 00:07:52.390 gosh and you know what else I'm
00:07:53.280 00:07:53.290 realizing this is all of my mechanical
00:07:55.380 00:07:55.390 no my little house is got a little bit
00:07:57.540 00:07:57.550 that's right let's get this out of your
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00:07:59.370 00:07:59.380 great all right see you later I'm Murray
00:08:01.170 00:08:01.180 thank you so much bye-bye bye
00:08:03.680 00:08:03.690 you know it seems like a nice little
00:08:06.000 00:08:06.010 machine and we were talking efficient
00:08:07.800 00:08:07.810 compact you get two devices turned in
00:08:10.140 00:08:10.150 the one why isn't this thing at
00:08:11.490 00:08:11.500 everybody's house well everybody wants
00:08:12.990 00:08:13.000 this and want appliance that can do both
00:08:14.910 00:08:14.920 heating and hot water but it has a
00:08:16.710 00:08:16.720 limitation and that's really the size of
00:08:18.480 00:08:18.490 the house if the house is too big you
00:08:19.860 00:08:19.870 don't have enough available power the
00:08:21.900 00:08:21.910 other is domestic hot water if you've
00:08:23.160 00:08:23.170 got a really big tub
00:08:24.270 00:08:24.280 80 to 100 gowns this might not fill it
00:08:26.610 00:08:26.620 at the speed you'd like it to be filled
00:08:27.870 00:08:27.880 at but you could take a shower all day
00:08:29.250 00:08:29.260 long could that's one of the great
00:08:30.300 00:08:30.310 things about this now can it heat the
00:08:32.250 00:08:32.260 house in produce domestic hot water at
00:08:34.320 00:08:34.330 the same time
00:08:35.370 00:08:35.380 technically no you know in normal mode
00:08:37.470 00:08:37.480 this unit is going to try to heat the
00:08:39.270 00:08:39.280 building and so the water will leave
00:08:41.430 00:08:41.440 this heat exchanger go through this pump
00:08:43.200 00:08:43.210 and go out to the system right here now
00:08:45.270 00:08:45.280 if you open up a faucet there's a sensor
00:08:47.250 00:08:47.260 in here that will now divert the water
00:08:48.690 00:08:48.700 through this valve through that heat
00:08:50.670 00:08:50.680 exchanger now it's going to heat up the
00:08:52.440 00:08:52.450 hot water and it's going to give
00:08:53.430 00:08:53.440 domestic hot water the priority as long
00:08:55.470 00:08:55.480 as you have that faucet open you leave
00:08:57.120 00:08:57.130 it on for 10 12 15 minutes you'd never
00:08:58.890 00:08:58.900 notice it right that you would didn't
00:09:00.120 00:09:00.130 have heat upstairs all right
00:09:01.230 00:09:01.240 well you are always showing us new stuff
00:09:02.550 00:09:02.560 Richard that I - so until next time I'm
00:09:04.800 00:09:04.810 Kevin O'Connor I'm richer through it I'm
00:09:06.420 00:09:06.430 Tom Silva and I'm Roger cook for ask
00:09:08.520 00:09:08.530 this old house I take really long
00:09:10.320 00:09:10.330 showers
00:09:10.800 00:09:10.810 good adjust for that we're gonna just
00:09:12.150 00:09:12.160 you just want a piece yet I'm good
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